What fears are holding you back from realizing your dreams?  In this episode, Lori and Jimmy share their best hacks and strategies to overcome fear and grow your life in the manner you desire.

You will gain insight into:

• The power you feel when you run to the fear or challenge!
• When you should prepare for the obstacles that you will knowingly face in life.
• Why it is critical that you limit or eliminate the negative people in your world.
• Who you should rely on when you need affirmation of your power to win!
• What your life will be like when you confront and defeat the most powerful obstacles in your financial life.

Podcast Transcript

JW:
Good morning, our Live a Life By Design listeners! Hey, this is Jimmy Williams with your co-host here and the star of our show, Lori Few! Hey, good morning, Lori.

LF:
Good morning. And you know, I’m, I’m not the star. I, I’m like the understudy. Let’s go there.

JW:
But when you negotiated your contract with this for an extension, you wanted a star on your bathroom door. I never understood what that was for, cuz this is an audio only show.

LF:
But remember, I am all about gold star stickers. Those are the things that motivate me. We’ve talked about this.

JW:
You know, we did. And she also wanted endless cups of java. So we have to have java, which is a fancy way in contract terms. Folks say coffee at her choice. Yes. But anyway, Hey, good morning everyone. What a beautiful day here in the greatest state of the Union. Oklahoma is shining brightly. That sun’s finally coming out from all those clouds. Woo. Lori, we can finally go outside without a raincoat or an umbrella.

LF:
But you can’t go outside without a Zyrtec or a Claritin.

JW:
That’s correct too. It is that time.

JW:
If you’re not sneezing, you’re not living in Oklahoma, apparently. That’s right.

LF:
Yeah, absolutely. But yes. Oh no. Sunshine is plentiful and we are so excited about that.

JW:
Gotta tell you, I’m big baseball fan here. You know that I love baseball. So I went to go see the Oklahoma City Dodgers play the other night, and it was bark in the park night. So we got take the puppy. Oh, he had a great time. He got so over stim, excuse me, stimulated. He had dogs everywhere trying to make new friends, you know, it’s just like a sleepover of 150 dogs. But anyway, and so he got to be on the big screen TV.

LF:
Nice. Yep. Celebrity status. Yep.

JW:
Yep. You oughta see him strut right after that. All 15 pounds, man. He was like, not even touching the ground, , but , his name’s Casper. And he was the star. He was in a challenge with what seemed to be a horse, but it turned out to be just a very large dog against him. And he was 15 pounds. And the horse, excuse me, dog was probably about 105. Oh. And they were, they were seeing who could eat the most pepperoni treats in the 30 seconds. And, and Casper did a great job. He hit I think six or seven of ’em and did a good job. You know, the little treats. And, and I think I think triggered the horse ate like 20. So anyway.

LF:
Yeah. Oh my goodness.

JW:
It’s quite a mismatch. But he didn’t know any better and he, you ought see him struck back to our seats. Oh, it was just un unreal, unreal . But hey, one thing he did is he took on his greatest fear, which is another dog that could probably eat him as an appetizer. Cuz you know, he’s not real big and the other dog was humongous. But I wanna talk today and share with, with our listeners, Lori and I have got some help for you today. And the help is gonna come from the standpoint of our real life examples. We have battled the challenges we may have overcome, but there’s a lot of fear in the world right now. Are they gonna get the debt ceiling raised? You know, are we gonna get anything done in the wars overseas? Are we gonna get inflation under check? Is the stock market gonna be relaxed and get back to normal processes in the cycle? All of these things, Lori, are simply unnecessary fear.

LF:
But why is that Jimmy? Like, why do you think fear is, is like such a strong human emotion over all the other emotions? Why is it that we let fear be the one that’s at the top of the list?

JW:
Because our brains have two real functions in our body’s response. Think about this as cavemen. We had either to eat what we were chasing or be eaten by what was chasing us. So you have this, you’ve heard it fight or flight. The psychologists call it your body. Either it signals endorphins through you and you get ready to take on whatever you’re facing or you get ready to load those endorphins up and run the other direction. And I think this is something now that we as people let control far too much of our thinking, we let this emotion of fear control a lot of things in our life. And especially when it comes to money. So think about this, Lori. People see, hey, when we made 12, 14% one year, oh this is great and I love it. And they don’t even wanna come into their meetings.

JW:
They want to talk to you cuz why? They’re very, very satiated on whatever they’re making in the stock market or wherever their money’s invested and they don’t think they need to talk to anyone. Then happens the 2020 twos of the year from March 17th to the end of October, the whole world falls apart. The s and p drops like 28% in one period of time. And now everybody’s wanting to come in and talk. It’s the fear of losing. As a matter of fact, let me ask you this. If I said to you, here’s a hundred dollars Bill, Lori, and I said to you, if you take that a hundred dollars bill, I want you to bet it and you have a chance of doubling your money or losing all of it in the role of one die. Now you got the numbers one through six on the die. I gave you the hundred dollars. It didn’t come outta your pocket, so it came outta mine. And I ask you to roll the dice and you get a six. We double your money, you get a one, you lose your money.

LF:
Would you do it? I’m not, I’m taking no, I wouldn’t do it. I’m, I’m not a risk taker. If the odds are not in my favor, I’m not gonna do it. I would just say, Nope, not gonna do it. Thank you. And take the hundred dollars and leave.

JW:
A lot of people make that decision. Now, what if I told you though of that same die you had five chances out of six of at least doubling your money and only one chance of losing it all, plus costing you a personal a hundred dollars bill. So here are the odds. You got five chances from two through six to double your money on the dice. If you roll a one an ace, that means you don’t only lose the a hundred I gave you, but you have to dig down in your purse and give me another a hundred. Would you do it?

LF:
Nope. Nope. Wouldn’t do it. Still wouldn’t do it.

JW:
Folks, this is what I’m talking about. So the fear of losing is much greater even when the odds and probabilities are higher than the excitement of winning. And that’s what we’re talking about today. So this fear, we want you to start running to your fear. Now, Lord, that’s a crazy thing to do, but do you see people that go into homes where there’s fires and they know there’s children in there somewhere? They have no regards for their own safety. They run into that house, it’s on fire. Sometimes these heroes or heroines come out and they don’t even realize they’ve been burnt until they get what some of the medics or the firemen go, Hey, you know, you’ve got some bad burns here and all they’re concerned about is that little person that they saved. Why do you think that is?

LF:
I don’t know. But I am so grateful for those people , because when you were talking about fight or flight earlier, I’m thinking I’m flight, I’m flight, I’m flight, I’m flight. There’s no way I’m fighting there. I I, you know, my grandmother used to have this saying that she would say, oh, you know, so-and-so couldn’t fight their way out of a paper bag with a hole in it, so…

JW:
I heard a wet paper bag when I was a kid. People who took maybe it wast paper, wet paper bag. Yeah.

LF:
Or yeah, wet paper bag or something to that nature. But either way you know, I no, absolutely 100000%. We are so grateful for first responders. I’ve, I’ve seen it myself. I’ve seen first responders run into the face of fear. The same thing with our nurses especially during the pandemic. I mean, every day going to work, not knowing and not hesitating, no sense of flight. It was all fight. And what an incredible testament to humanity. Thank goodness we have those people. The same thing for our military. Our military men and women who go every single day and have no idea what the battle may be for that day. But they don’t care. They’re willing to take that risk and and to do those things. And you talk about overcoming fear, you’re right. They don’t even see it that way. They just see it as this is what they are meant to do in life.

LF:
And what a powerful statement. Thank goodness we have those people. And and I hope that, you know, those people continue to be examples for the younger generations of people that step up and say, I wanna do that too. That looks like the coolest thing in the world to do. I think I’m, you know, skilled or I think I might have you know, a calling to do those things and, and let’s go for it. But why do you think, Jimmy, that people give so much credibility to fear when they know deep down they can overcome it?

JW:
Have you ever been in a crowd of people that are chanting something like jump, jump, jump. And you’re two stories up above, but they gotta trampoline down below and swimming pool to the other side of it. And, and I’m not even given any credibility to the fact that they may have been drinking. Let’s just assume that this crowd’s telling you to jump, right? There’s flexibility for that. So there’s a lot of crowd function, if you will, in our lives. And so when you get around people that basically are telling you, no, I wouldn’t do that, I wouldn’t do that, I wouldn’t do that. As a matter of fact, that happens a lot. Not just in our personal life, but also in our financial life, right? So people that have no idea about the fundamentals of the economics of our world, or they don’t even understand the basics of investing will tell people what they did and say, that’s the best thing for you.

JW:
Even though it may or may not be because they’d like for you to be in the same position as they, no one wants to be the one that’s not elevated above the other. So people will, for lack of a better term, and you don’t need friends like this, but some people do not wanna see you grow in your life because that would leave them behind. And so this credibility comes from the fact that they don’t want to be isolated as the only one standing on that big pedestal that they fought through and made it through. And now they’re a bigger, better, bolder person than they were just yesterday. And those people that were friends yesterday may not be quite the friends you need tomorrow. Does that sound nice?

LF:
Well, no, I mean, it’s not – well probably, harsh is not a great word to describe that, but truthful. I mean, that, that’s a very, you know, we talk about it a lot. Sometimes people say things to us that we don’t want to hear, but we need to hear. And and I think your assessment of that is absolutely true. I think in different phases of your life, you’re gonna be, you know, we call them fair weather friends. They’re the people that, yeah, they show up when things are good and they might hang around when things get little tough, but they’re not your go-to people. They’re not your people that are gonna lift you up to that higher elevation and be, you know, right there with you. They’re the people that are gonna kind of say, oh, why would you wanna do that? That doesn’t, you know because you’re right, they want you to stay on that same level because then there’s no competition, there’s no fear of missing out. And then, you know, there’s no credibility of one person being better than the other.

JW:
I don’t want to go politics on you, but I gotta tell you a funny story. So there was a certain politician that one of my friends just said, he just could not stand this person. And I’m sitting there listening to him and, and it was a, a female leader and I’m just sitting there listening to this person and I’m listening and I said, oh, okay. I said can I ask you what research you’ve done? Because those don’t sound factual. What terms you’ve listed as the reasons why you don’t like this person . And I said, to be very frank with you, I don’t think it’s the person you dislike, I just think it’s their statements or outcomes because you don’t know this person. I’m pretty certain you don’t know this person. This person was pretty highly elevated in our world.

JW:
And, and finally I’m sitting there visiting with him and he goes, well, what do you mean? And I said, well, at the end of the day, where’d you learn all this? Well, my friend said, and so what I’m trying to say to you, Lori, is that we often take incredulous information and try to make it credible. Now it’s hearsay in innuendo and it’s, some of it’s just downright falls. And we take that and we run with that. So that’s that group thinking. Know, I wanna show that I’m with that group. And so I’m gonna go and denounce and, and just be, you know, horrible about this person’s reputation when I have no idea who they are. Now, I have no problem attacking someone’s policies if I think they in some way counter my thoughts, beliefs for this country what’s best. But I never attacked the person cuz I don’t know them.

JW:
You know what I mean? That’s the kind of how I would look at this. And in this instance, what I did when after just take a few minutes of conversation, this person said, well, we know you’re right. I’m sitting here talking about something I guess I have no clue about. And I said, I’m not saying you’re wrong, I’m just saying gather your own facts. Don’t allow others to give you facts that you can’t vet to be truthful. And a lot of times that’s where fear comes from. People embed those unknowns in your mind when if you were to study it and you go, well good grief, it’s just dark out in the woods. How do I know there’s any monsters out there? There’s no monsters. Just walk out in the woods. You will find 99% of the time, unless you, and I’m an old boy scout here it goes, if you go out in the woods and you step on sticks and make noises and all that, I assure you 99% of the time those animals are running from you out of fear of mankind.

JW:
Not to you as if you’re a meal because there’s only a few bears, maybe some mountain lines, things of that nature. But I promise you they don’t want to see and be surprised by you. So the more noise you make, that’s what I tell people. If you’re walking through the woods, make noise and nope, nothing’s gonna bother you. You may step on a snake, but that’s that 1% I was talking about. Otherwise they’re not. As a matter of fact, snakes wanna get away from you. They don’t really wanna be bothered either. So that’s my story and I’m sticking to it

LF:
The slithering things. And I don’t get along at all. I, I am not a boy scout. I have boy, I do have a boy scout in my house. I do have a assistant troop leader at my husband. And you know, they’re very much into all the camping and all the things that you, I can absolutely validate what you just said because that is what they teach from very, you know, early on, is that the animals are afraid of you and be loud and be big and they’re gonna be running in an opposite direction. Well, I don’t do the great outdoors very often. I, I have gone. But I was told, this was during a time of year where the weather was changing and the snakes were trying to find places to kind of hide, I don’t know, hibernation or whatever.

LF:
And we were out and about on a camping excursion and I was picking up twigs, you know, just, I don’t know, I was picking up twigs and I just happened to pick up this piece of bark from a tree and this giant, I mean, in my mind it was probably a hundred feet long. It had fangs three inches, you know, wide. It was a, a red snake, like its skin was red and it was black. And I was convinced that it was just this horrible, scary thing and I was terrified and I went to scream. I never touched it. I probably gave the poor thing a heart attack. And then I, you know, valuable lesson leave things alone in their own environment because you’re not supposed to come and interact with them. .

JW:
And, and, and Lori, I hate to tell you, but as human, you’re in their turf. They didn’t come to your place and disturb your, your habitat, you came to theirs, right?

LF:
No. So I don’t pick up any bark or any twigs or anything in the wilderness anymore because I don’t, I don’t wanna know what’s there.

JW:
But why are you, if I may dive a little deeper here, why are you afraid of those things like that little slimy things or long things or…?

LF:
It think it’s just the fear of, of un the unknown. I think in science class when we’re taught about in, you know, zoology, when we’re taught about the venomous snakes and the non venomous, if you’ll notice no one ever remembered, well I shouldn’t say no one that’s very presumptuous of me. However, no one typically doesn’t remember the snakes that are non venomous. You just remember the ones that are venomous because those are the ones that you have to avoid. So you’re afraid of them because of all the things that you’ve seen or you’ve heard or the, you know, wives tales about, you know, someone gets bit by a snake and then someone else has to try to like suck the venom out to get it out before they get to the hospital.

JW:
We don’t do that anymore. You don’t suck the venom out.

LF:
Well, I mean these are the horror stories that you’re told when you’re a young person and you think that’s why I’m still scared of snakes because I mean, clearly if I get bit, who’s gonna help me?

JW:
You know, I gotta tell you Lori, if you get bit by a snake, I you know, I love you, but I’m not, you know, I’m not sucking anything outta anybody. Well that’s no blood, no venom. No I’m not. That’s just not me.

LF:
Well thanks. Now I know, I’m not ever going hiking with Jimmy or camping cuz he’s not gonna help me.

JW:
I’ll put a tourniquet on you. We’ll get you straight to the infirmary or what? Nearest hospital. An anti-venom.

JW:
Yes. We’ll be all right. . No, it’s, it’s so funny what you laugh about and talk about, but this buddy of mine, he is that kind of person. He is so scared of everything and it’s because of the unknown. Do you realize in the state of Oklahoma where we live folks and you, some of you live in 57 other countries, I get it. But in our country, in the state of Oklahoma, we only have literally four poisonous breed snakes that we’re aware of four. Now we’ve got probably literally hundreds of different snakes. Four. But I have a sister that will run over any one of them on the road, without any identification if it’s in her yard, hold the head off of the thing with a sharp hole. And I’m like, you know, do you realize they eat the snakes or the other snakes or the rats or the bugs that get in your, and I said, there’s a reason God put ’em on the planet and that doesn’t mean for you to kill all of them. And then she goes, garden of Eden, he said, snakes are on their belly. That was Satan. That’s bad . I’m like, okay, there’s no win in this argument.

LF:
Okay, well, but speaking of that talking about, you know, the good book and, and the story of, of the Garden of Eden, don’t you think that sometimes one of the biggest stories of overcoming fear that we can talk about is the story of David and Goliath?

JW:
Oh man. And let’s unpack that just for a minute, Lori, because that is a very big story when it comes to facing fear and taking control of what you can to overcome the hurdles and obstacles in life. Cuz that’s really all David did. A boy, by the way, by its definition and the verses, he was not yet a man. Very small. What, what were some of the things that he did though to prepare for that when he said, I’ve just gotta go over and take this guy out. What, what he did?

LF:
I mean, can you imagine mentally? I mean…

JW:
His confidence was on top of the mountain though, man.

LF:
Yeah, I mean, just, the whole idea, by all intents and purposes, he had absolutely no business trying to take this on. But again, it goes back to that whole conversation we were having earlier. There are some people that are just built that instead of flight, it’s fight.

JW:
And keep in mind what he did, they tried to put the king’s armor on him. The king was afraid of this guy. This was a giant of a man laughing at them on the other side, making fun of these, the Israelites making fun of these people and he’s calling them out and calling them dogs and everything. Send over any warrior you have, I’ll do battle with him. And so they put the armor on David and he couldn’t even walk cook movies just so heavy. So he was such a young boy. So he just goes to a running brook and he gets three small stones and puts ’em in his little leather path. So as a shepherd boy, he had this leather patch probably in a sling that to get rid of maybe those things, wolves or anything, coyotes after his sheep. And , they look at him and they go, what are you gonna do?

JW:
You know, literally I’m paraphrasing, what are you gonna do with that? Three stones and a sling? And keep in mind, no armor, no sword, nothing to do battle offensively except for that sling and those stones. But he had something within him that he did not need without him to conquer this big fear. Every man behind him was screaming and, and shaking in their sandals. I didn’t know if they had boots back then, but shaking in their sandals, . And David sees the Philistine that was supposedly, you know, eight, nine feet tall over their humongous man. And he tells the king, he said I’ll bring back his head. And they’re all like, oh boy, this kid’s gonna be dead before he get over the valley. No way. Yeah. What does he do though in the face of this kind of catastrophic event that may occur?

JW:
He does something phenomenal. He literally looks at this fear he has over on the hillside and takes off running to it, not from it. So this entire Israel Israelite army was stunned sitting there and they couldn’t figure out how what to beat this guy. And this kid comes up and runs to the giant and as he’s running, he is putting a rock in this sling. And he is getting centrifugal force up swinging this sling above his head. And then as he’s running, the sling is swinging and the stone’s in it and he launches and it actually embeds the stone in the forehead of this giant of a man immediately killing him. Now that’s pretty wild, Lori.

LF:
It’s wild. I mean, and here I am thinking about all the, the daily struggles of, of life in terms of fear. Fear of wanting to be a good human being, fear of wanting to be the best employee and team, you know, teammate, team member. The fear of not, you know, the fear of just not being able to function whether it’s spiritually, emotionally, financially. I mean these are all things that can be crippling if, if you really just sit and think about it. And so mindset again is something that is a constant daily occurrence that you have to talk positively to yourself and surround yourself with those people. Otherwise you will get into your own head and have nothing but fear to look forward to. And that’s just not a good way to live.

JW:
No, but look, one last step that David took when he had knocked this giant down. Of course the Philistines go running cuz well let’s look at this providentially, I’m gonna, I’ll get a little bit deep here probably theologically. But they realize the Philistines, that God was on the side of the Israelites when a young boy with a sling can take out their best champion, right? And what does David do? He reaches down, takes the sword of the giant that he had in front of him and takes the head off the giant, raising it above in his hand, toward the ill Israelites. Now the cheering starts, right? They, they, this is their new champion, which is David. And the point I’m bringing about all that is, is David showed that if in doubt quit stewing about it and start doing something about it, your fears will seem smaller.

LF:
More doing, less doing.

JW:
Yeah. But what do we do? We set and think, we set and think, yes, we set and think instead get off our tails. Get up and run to whatever that fear is. So I gotta tell you, one of my fears when I was a young guy is I just really didn’t think I could cross this one gorge that we had at, at scout camp. So it was like Robert’s cave area down here. We were at scout camp and there was this log across this thing and I was always taller than most of the guys. I grew taller than they did when I was in grade school. I was a little heavier cuz I grew faster and I had this fear that man, one wrong step, you know? And down I go and I’ve seen these movies, cowboy shows, whatever, where these guys fall off these logs to their own demise, you know?

JW:
And I’ll tell you what, I did to overcome that and one wrong move and I’d have been dead anyway. So I don’t know why I did this, but I thought to myself, all these boys were slowly aing their way across foot in front of the foot, in front of the foot. And I said to myself, and this thing was about 12, 14 feet wide. So it wasn’t just real wide but like, you know, shooting a free throw, right? And Lord, you’re gonna laugh. So I told everybody, I said, get outta the way. And they go, what are you gonna do? And I said, I’m gonna cross this thing. They go, you’re gonna jump it? And I said, no, I’m not gonna jump it. And I just took off running. I was about 11 years old. I took off running as fast as I could about 40 feet away from this gorge.

JW:
And I just, I don’t know if my feet ever hit that log, but if they did, it didn’t tip tiptoe it. But three or four times I was across, I mean I . So because what I said to myself, there’s only one way I’m gonna convince myself I can do this. And what do you think that is? To do it? You just, I was gonna say just do it. Do it. You know, Nike has the slogan, but you just gotta do it. Yeah. And folks, that’s all we’re saying today. For you, our listeners, if you’re saying, well I can’t take a new career in this area because I just don’t have the skills. Hey get up, get ’em and go do it. I can’t be a supervisor because I’m just not a great leader. Hey, get up, get some education, get your confidence, go do it.

JW:
The number one, maybe the number one and two ingredient to defeating any fear is your confidence has to be high. What you can do if you don’t listen to all the Nancy naysayers and you also have to have faith that you can outcome on the other side the way you wish. That’s it. This isn’t hard stuff. It, yeah. So I’m gonna go get a snake. It’s gonna be a python cuz they don’t buy it. They squeeze. And I’m gonna squeeze, get it Lori, to take her picture. We’re gonna put it on the website with this thing around her neck or whatever. And so I’ve got one I’m gonna put on there. It’s a yellow albino python. This thing’s about 14 feet long and I got to put it above my head now. It was a little bit weird feeling real soft, but the head, and I’m trying to show Lori here on the, on the call, but the head was roughly around probably about six inches wide at the jaws.

JW:
So I mean, this was a big snake. And when I was at a meeting the Oklahoma Society of CPAs, I was the chair, I thought how cool it’d be to take my picture of this. And it was cool after I was done, I will tell you I watched a lot of snake shows, , I was a kid and I thought, you know, this thing could turn around and just bite my entire face off and nobody could save me. And so I just said, I gotta do it. So I got up and I wrapped this snake around and it was the most gentle of beans. It was heavy, it probably weighed 150 pounds. Hopefully it had just eaten. Well, you know, it, I, it didn’t even yawn. I mean it was just like, who are these boring people and how much is my master getting paid? But anyway, right. That’s how I did it. Yeah. Wow. So I’ll get you one Lori, and we’ll have you hug a snake.

LF:
I’m not gonna do that.

JW:
. Okay, I’ll get you a snake. Listen, I’ll make the deal sweeter. I will get you a nice big snake to hold. That’s not gonna be poisonous. And some under garments called the pins cuz I know you’re gonna need those probably.

LF:
Oh yeah, yeah. I’m gonna definitely, yeah. And you’re, I you’re gonna need earplugs because I’m probably going to scream so loud that it’s, yeah, it’s gonna be epic level.

JW:
Oh my gosh.

LF:
So this week let’s talk about this week’s challenge, shall we?

JW:
Let’s do it.

LF:
Okay. So this week it’s critical that you protect your confidence so that you can make decisions that will give you a bigger future and be the best version of yourself you can be. And instead of running away, we’re gonna practice. We’re not going to say that we’re gonna go guns blazing, but we’re going to practice running into the fear because that’s the only way that we’re going to get better at it. So if you are like me and you didn’t start out in life as a runner, I am not ever probably going to qualify as a runner. I was more of a walk jogger. Then we’re gonna start slow. But that’s the process. If you start at all, you can start slow and work your way up into a jog and then into a sprint and then into a run. So that’s what we’re gonna do. We’re gonna start. Because if we don’t start, then we can’t ever hold ourselves accountable. It’s all about starting that process and being confident in what we’re running into the fear.

JW:
And I tell you, I actually faced another fear just the other day on Mother’s Day, by the way.

LF:
Oh, on Mother’s Day.

JW:
Yeah. I hugged my mother-in-law. I’ll tell you. It was fearful. Oh, and I’ll tell you, she, she didn’t buy it. She didn’t kick me.

LF:
He’s a saint.

JW:
Yeah, she’s a saint. She’s a saint. I’m telling you a saint.

LF:
She is a saint.

JW:
Hey everyone, thanks for joining us this week cuz we got way off topic on some of this stuff. But that’s why you listen. We’re so original and sincere.

LF:
We keep it interesting.

JW:
We do. And we don’t script this stuff folks. It just happens.

JW:
Thank you Lori, for your great content this week for joining me. And for everyone out there listening to Live Life by Design, go to our Facebook page, the Live a Life By Design Community, ask to join the page, look at all the great stuff we’re sharing there as well. And our website at livealifeby.design/podcast. Lori, take us home.

LF:
Go out this week and live your life by design!

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